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  • #16
    if the tune stored ON the stang was returned to "stock" then yes, theoretically, it should work on another ford.

    However, if they tune their car, leave the tune on their PCM and sell the XCAL like that, you are stuck paying to clear it yourself, which will more than cover the cost of a new XCAL2 or XCAL3
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ray View Post
      if the tune stored ON the stang was returned to "stock" then yes, theoretically, it should work on another ford.

      However, if they tune their car, leave the tune on their PCM and sell the XCAL like that, you are stuck paying to clear it yourself, which will more than cover the cost of a new XCAL2 or XCAL3

      uh, what? so the software provided by SCT doesn't allow you to reset the device?

      what about if I brought it to a dyno tune shop and had them clear it, wouldn't they throw that in with the cost of the tune?

      how much should I expect to pay for a descent tune?
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      • #18
        the XCAL can only tune one car at a time. if you have a tune loaded to a PCM of a vehicle, then the XCAL is "locked". in order to do anything with it, it has to be used on the same PCM or you have to load the "original" tune (OEM tune) back to the OEM PCM to use the XCAL on another PCM.

        As for a dyno shop being able to do it, I wouldn't know, but I would not think its impossible (if they are a certified XCAL dealer, as well...)
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ray View Post
          the XCAL can only tune one car at a time. if you have a tune loaded to a PCM of a vehicle, then the XCAL is "locked". in order to do anything with it, it has to be used on the same PCM or you have to load the "original" tune (OEM tune) back to the OEM PCM to use the XCAL on another PCM.

          As for a dyno shop being able to do it, I wouldn't know, but I would not think its impossible (if they are a certified XCAL dealer, as well...)
          alright... but it's nothing but software at this point, nobody has hacked a way to "unlock" a Xcal?

          come on guys, I can play PS3 games on a 360, I can play sega genesis games on a 360. I can play any games I want on a pc, as well as burn copies on my dual layer DVD-RW that will play like new on their home game system.

          with all of the innovation in the underground, nobody has figured out how to unlock a friggin Xcal?
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          • #20
            Who knows... all I know is that on THIS forum, you won't hear about it... period.

            We (CEG, the site, admins/mods and community as a whole) don't support, allow, or promote any form of piracy, nor the discussion of the aforementioned actions or ideas. Its illegal, and this is something our site wants nothing to do with. We present ourselves to the internet-as-a-whole as a respectable, family oriented site. It will remain that way for the foreseeable future.

            I'm sure there's a way (there's a way for ANYTHING, right?) and maybe even that its been done... but the bottom line is: you won't learn about it, or hear about it on these forums.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Ray View Post
              Who knows... all I know is that on THIS forum, you won't hear about it... period.

              We (CEG, the site, admins/mods and community as a whole) don't support, allow, or promote any form of piracy, nor the discussion of the aforementioned actions or ideas. Its illegal, and this is something our site wants nothing to do with. We present ourselves to the internet-as-a-whole as a respectable, family oriented site. It will remain that way for the foreseeable future.

              I'm sure there's a way (there's a way for ANYTHING, right?) and maybe even that its been done... but the bottom line is: you won't learn about it, or hear about it on these forums.
              well that reply falls into the category of fascism, but since the interwebs seem to follow some level of fascist legislation, I'll subside here.

              so what are my options in the circumstance that I cannot find a way to reflash my Xcal? I'd rather be able to drive my vehicle to a dyno without worrying that it will explode by the time I make it there.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by KAOS_2.5M View Post
                well that reply falls into the category of fascism, but since the interwebs seem to follow some level of fascist legislation, I'll subside here.

                so what are my options in the circumstance that I cannot find a way to reflash my Xcal? I'd rather be able to drive my vehicle to a dyno without worrying that it will explode by the time I make it there.
                fascism: A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, [etc]


                Have you looked around? This is a PRIVATELY HELD SITE, with a CENTRAL owner who dictates the rules. Wow.. I'm glad you posted those high school scores, or I'd think you accidentally stumbled on to being correct...


                Your options:
                with a 3L? it will run fine untuned.. just drive it there.
                boosted?

                unhook the inlet/turbo and run it NA, but with the turbo piping installed so you can drive to the dyno.
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                • #23
                  I recently rode along with a friend who flashed his Speed3 and it gave him several base tune options such as Economy, Sport 1 and Sport 2. Does the Xcal offer several base tunes as well or is it like other tuners I've seen where it just goes through some yes/no questions?
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                  • #24
                    it isn't a user-based tuner.

                    it is a completely custom tune based on datalogging the car (either on a dyno, or via a laptop running in the car while driving.

                    This isn't a "yes/no" basic system.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Ray View Post
                      it isn't a user-based tuner.

                      it is a completely custom tune based on datalogging the car (either on a dyno, or via a laptop running in the car while driving.

                      This isn't a "yes/no" basic system.
                      Gotcha. When they say its user adjustable I assumed it was like the other yes/no user based tuners.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Dyoel182 View Post
                        Gotcha. When they say its user adjustable I assumed it was like the other yes/no user based tuners.

                        sort of, with the xcal2 you can adjust a few parameters when you upload the tune. you can adjust spark, wot fuel, tire size, low and high speed fan turn on temps, etc
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                        • #27
                          and with just the basic XCAL2, when BrApple mentions "spark" or "wot fuel" its not 100&#37; adjustability.. its a percentage of variation FROM the tune that was created for you via a dyno shop, etc..

                          You can add 3 degrees timing, for example, but its a GLOBAL change.. all changes are global changes for that area. Spark timing is global (xdegrees) across the BOARD.. not at a certain RPM... so.. even though you COULD use another degree or two of advanced timing in the lower band, you may have already been on the ragged edge of the limit at the rev-limit, and it will still add the same 3 degrees at the top, too, causing problems at redline, etc.

                          This is an example of how you "can" adjust things, but not with any amount of precision..

                          This is not to take away from the Xcal or what IT can do.. I am just describing what the USER can do.. an XCAL in the hands of a PRP owner who is ALSO a knowledgeable person on this platform can adjust ANYTHING they want in ANY way shape or form..
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                          • #28
                            so if i want to tune my se with the svt cams and such.

                            then want to tune the svt to run the 3l and whatever else i need to buy 2 xcals correct.

                            wish if you purchased the PRP it would let you unlock it. or let you store 2-5 tunes on the xcal
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by yamaha racer 686 View Post
                              so if i want to tune my se with the svt cams and such.

                              then want to tune the svt to run the 3l and whatever else i need to buy 2 xcals correct.

                              wish if you purchased the PRP it would let you unlock it. or let you store 2-5 tunes on the xcal

                              no all you would need is a new tune to down load to the pcm ... the xcal2 can hold 3 tunes as well as the stock tune.
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                              • #30
                                ONE XCAL can tune ANY number of vehicles... just NOT at the SAME time.
                                If you buy an XCAL you can tune your SE for the SVT bits. When you load a tune to the SE, it puts the XCAL in to a locked mode (you can't tune another vehicle right now with it), then if you want to tune the SVT you have to REVERT the SE back to a stock tune ("unload" the tune you made) and this process puts the XCAL back in to an open mode which can be used on any car (namely, your SVT)

                                no big deal if you don't mind plugging the XCAL in to the car you decide to drive and reload the tune each time you switch cars. If you want BOTH to be tuned at the SAME TIME... you need TWO Xcal units.
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