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drivebymashing

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i drove my moms car she has a ford 500
i put 450 miles on this thing up and down hills high way and everyhting else
its a 6 speed auto
ok i have a 98 svt
her car feels ballsier than my car
i think mines quicker only in the upper rpm like 5 k and past
so my question is
is the 3.0 that much different driving than a 2.5 in a craptour
the low end was aweosme there was 4 people in the car with the trunk full too
and it would still spin the tires and was getting 28 mpg

i want a 3.0 in my contour someone post back telling me difference in the driving expeirence
 
Guy -
There are about 20,000 opinions on this already. Everyone who has done the swap has not looked back. They all love the extra power, and more so the torque. Read through old posts not only on here, but in the old forums. And its a Duratec.
 
ok one more question lets say my car will run 15.2 from the factory
and will run 14.5 with the 3l in a 1/4 mile how many car lengths is that

im just trying to see what it will be like
getting the 3l would just require me to go around a long corner at high rpm
 
drivebymashing said:
ok one more question lets say my car will run 15.2 from the factory
and will run 14.5 with the 3l in a 1/4 mile how many car lengths is that

im just trying to see what it will be like
getting the 3l would just require me to go around a long corner at high rpm
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With a good driver your SVT could hit 15.2 from the factory.
With a good driver a 3L will hit 14.5 depending on build (could be more or less).

I don't get what your saying with getting the 3L and corners.

If you use 2.5 heads, you have the same oil restictions that the SVT has. So simply don't go flying around a huge corner in high RPM's.
If you use 3L heads you no longer have to worry about it.
 
I think what he is saying is he only has to take a high rpm corner in his 2.5 once to put him in line for a 3L.
 
yeah what sho go fast said
i just wondering will i be like dang thats really worth all the long hard hours and money i put into my car for the 3l
or will i be like this thing is bearly fast than it was before someone in the area i could check out there 3l contour would be awesome

asheville north carolina
 
posthuman63t said:
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If you use 2.5 heads, you have the same oil restictions that the SVT has. So simply don't go flying around a huge corner in high RPM's.
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Why NOT? People have been flying around corners in their SVTs on roadcourses since they came out and the majority do not have bearing failures. Use a quality oil of the CORRECT weight and add the piece of mind that Tri-Metal bearings add and I think you would never have to look back on that note.
People have been building hybrids since year 2000. Most have not failed. In fact I only know of a very small handful that failed due to bearings.
posthuman63t said:
If you use 3L heads you no longer have to worry about it.
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Again this has several exceptions where people are spinning bearings on standard ovalports. Some just recently this year too. :shocked:
It depends on the driving conditions, oil, and bearing quality to some degree. We know those aren't the only reasons as crank-whip is still not out of the realm of possibility.
I would again reiterate that whichever head you use, you should select a quality oil that has a thick enough film quality to it so that if you do lose pressure momentarily the oil can protect. If it is very thin and hot the oil will be like water and push right out of the bearings quickly.
 
warmonger said:
Why NOT? People have been flying around corners in their SVTs on roadcourses since they came out and the majority do not have bearing failures. Use a quality oil of the CORRECT weight and add the piece of mind that Tri-Metal bearings add and I think you would never have to look back on that note.
People have been building hybrids since year 2000. Most have not failed. In fact I only know of a very small handful that failed due to bearings.


Again this has several exceptions where people are spinning bearings on standard ovalports. Some just recently this year too. :shocked:
It depends on the driving conditions, oil, and bearing quality to some degree. We know those aren't the only reasons as crank-whip is still not out of the realm of possibility.
I would again reiterate that whichever head you use, you should select a quality oil that has a thick enough film quality to it so that if you do lose pressure momentarily the oil can protect. If it is very thin and hot the oil will be like water and push right out of the bearings quickly.
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I was simply stating that with the svt engine, taking hard long curves at high rpm's an issue is brought up. Of course there are ways to prevent it. There are cases where it happens, and if your worried about highway ramps (like the original poster said) then dont take them at high rpm's.

With the 3L, I was a lttle over stating it. You have less to worry about with the oil issue above for reasons you already know. Of course it still is, less of an issue when compared to the svt engine.

Yes, there are ways to prevent it for both with oil weights and amounts. But for a stock svt engine, the easiest way to not have to worry about it, is simply not taking the long hard turn at such a high rpm.
 
todras said:
You have something wrong with your car if you think a 500 is quick.
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Agreed. A friend of mine has a 500, and, while peppy, isn't what I call "fast" (and a '98 'tour V6 ATX is my DD).

When's the last time you pulled and cleaned your LIM, UIM, changed all filters, plugs, and wires? Chances are you've lost a lot of your "oomph" due to build-up of crap over time.

A can of BG44k would also help you...
 
ive never done the uim lim thing
its got new plugs newer plug wire
and a new air filter amzoil
it will bark second i dont know how fast one is suposed to be it will go 120 no problem.... ive got 116k
 
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