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Wilwood 13" front kit

Yeah, 2-pc rotors are big $$ compared to the budgets around these parts, lol.

I'd say $250 for a set of rotor hats would be an absolute minimum guess at price, probably a lot more, plus hardware to bolt the rotors to the hats, another $50 or so, plus the cost of the rotors themselves, at least $100 each.
 
does anyone know if baer rotors can be resurfaced? i was unsure because i have never resurfaced drilled and slotted rotors
 
I've had my Baer solid rotors turned. I then read that you're not supposed to. They need to be reseeded. Yea right.
 
I've had my Baer solid rotors turned. I then read that you're not supposed to. They need to be reseeded. Yea right.

I believe the term you are looking for is "reseasoned". Basically its a thermal cycle process you go through to get the right grain structure on the surface of the rotors. At the same time you would be bedding them in as well, which is transferring a thin layer of the pad material to the rotor face to allow them to generate the full friction potential.
 
OK Andys did not know that Baer raised the price on the brake kits but will still honor the price on their website!

They will go lower if we are able to purchase 5+ kits and will not go lower after that!!!

$733 per kit for the baer track kit(13" and two peice rotor) Then obviously there would be shipping!

It would be about 60 bucks shipping if they ship them individually to our houses or about $150 bucks per pallet freight over to somebodies house then they ship all of them to each of us!!!!

Compare the price of that to the Wilwoods!

- amyn

I am interested but I don't think I would really need the track kit or do they hold up the same as the Sport? Not really sure on the difference.

Thanks
 
I am interested but I don't think I would really need the track kit or do they hold up the same as the Sport? Not really sure on the difference.

Thanks

i called AAS. they have no clue what the difference is between sport and track. i couldn't wait for the gb, if at all there was gonna be any. i got my kit for $820 shipped. couldnt tell you whether it was sport or track. all i know is, i'm getting two 13" drilled n slotted rotors, baer calipers, braided lines etc. its
 
Baer "Sport" kits are 12" 1 piece.
Baer "Track" kits are 13" 1 piece.
Baer "Track-Plus" kits are 13" 2 piece.
All three kits come with the 2 piston caliper.

Are you sure their Sport kit is available for our platform? I've never heard of anything other than the Track(-Plus) kits. If you're considering the 12" kit, are you opposed to the NPG FSVT 12" brake kit? I'm sure it's much cheaper, and it'll upgrade the rears too.
 
Baer "Sport" kits are 12" 1 piece.
Baer "Track" kits are 13" 1 piece.
Baer "Track-Plus" kits are 13" 2 piece.
All three kits come with the 2 piston caliper.

Are you sure their Sport kit is available for our platform? I've never heard of anything other than the Track(-Plus) kits. If you're considering the 12" kit, are you opposed to the NPG FSVT 12" brake kit? I'm sure it's much cheaper, and it'll upgrade the rears too.

besides, why would anyone want the 12" rotors if you can get the 13"s for 15bucks more? whats the 1 & 2 piece anyway?
 
I was not sure on the differance. Thanks. I would rather have the 13's but are they the 1 piece or 2?

Also do they have a kit for the back? Anyone know if it is possible to put the stock fronts in the back? You have the parts after you do the upgrade.
 
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A couple comments if you'll indulge me please.

1. The kits are still listed on the web page. In both .81 and 1.10 width.

2. All base kits are four pot calipers, there are not two pot versions.

3. Cost is still the same about three years running. If $1300 is too costly you need to get out more...

4. This "high price" also includes the full two piece rotor set up not found on other kits for 2/3 the cost so go figure that into the lower options also.

5. RARA covers it well in that any hybrid PBR conversion to this car is pretty much a Baer clone. Save your time and hassle and just buy the Baer and get on with it. Why re invent the wheel?

6. I'll disagree with RARA to an extent on the value of booted vs non booted calipers. Many a booted caliper will vaporize on the track and you'll be left with crispy flakes of old rubber boot melted to the piston resulting in potentially more work and expense to repair them. Stainless steel pistons offer both better heat rejection and without the boots are easier to clean before retraction. With literally hundreds of non booted calipers in service for over 14yrs few real issue have arisen from this. As he says however there's no substitute for proper maintenance and yes there's a life span here to consider. An FSL four pot could be considered used up after a few years of track service. But both replaced for about $350.

7. With regard to caliper options both FSL4 or BSL6 and how they are used remember that on this car like many, there is only so much room to work with. Thus fitting a larger, perhaps more durable, hard core racing caliper to this vehicle would require fitting massive wheel spacers. One has to balance the needs vs the 'what works' here. The FSL is, to me, the more serious track caliper over the BSL6 and certainly the 6n. Given it's full size pad, forged body and lower replacement cost it's the easy winner. If cost is no real object and true hard core track use is the objective we need to move from the production kits to more dedicated parts such as 1.25 or 1.375 rotors and larger W6a or STR type product. All of which are significantly more costly items for this level of vehicle.

In the end it comes down to balancing budget, use, space, options and in short; value. And today for $1300 I don't think you'd do any better.
 
6. I'll disagree with RARA to an extent on the value of booted vs non booted calipers. Many a booted caliper will vaporize on the track and you'll be left with crispy flakes of old rubber boot melted to the piston resulting in potentially more work and expense to repair them. Stainless steel pistons offer both better heat rejection and without the boots are easier to clean before retraction. With literally hundreds of non booted calipers in service for over 14yrs few real issue have arisen from this. As he says however there's no substitute for proper maintenance and yes there's a life span here to consider. An FSL four pot could be considered used up after a few years of track service. But both replaced for about $350.

C'mon now Todd, let's not overestimate the bulk of the users on CEG. I completely agree with your statements above. A 2-piston PBR will destroy the piston boots in less than a half a track session if you're driving hard. But the majority of users here don't run on the track, they run in crappy weather (we can't all live in AZ . . . boy do I hate Michigan, lol) and don't maintain their components meticulously. Non-booted calipers have a solid place in the market, but they aren't for daily driver in places like Michigan or other states in the snow belt . . .

To everyone else, The wilwood kits that Todd sells are excellent, and at an excellent price, provided you are realistic about how you really plan to use them. If you aren't planning to use them in the bad weather months, and will inspect them on occasion, then by all means, go for it. And they look pimpy too . . . better than any of the other options out there at least.
 
Yea but everyone tells me they're race car drivers and track their car many times a year....you mean it's not so???!
 
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