thanks for the great comments guys. yes those are tonys old rims, i also have a spare set i just bought a little while ago. both sets are 18" konig tantrums, im trying to decide if i should have one set the color they are now, and one set bronze. or sell the second set and get something different. opinions wanted. also i will have more pictures tommorrow night of the many new parts on the car, and some still not installed.....