95pgt-t
Hard-core CEG'er
20 on it doing what?it might make most peak hp. but in the real world USALBLE power through out the band means more to most people
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Dyno 2/13/2008 3 liter intakes test
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morbid
Hard-core CEG'er
so... you're saying that it won't have the most usable power? :shrug:
Did you test only up to 6200
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I see better tq numbers up top but it seems it doesn't do too much more than a stock 3l tb.
Let me ask you, how much of a difference does having the 65mmtb feel on the car. Butt dyno wise.
.I see better tq numbers up top but it seems it doesn't do too much more than a stock 3l tb.
Let me ask you, how much of a difference does having the 65mmtb feel on the car. Butt dyno wise.
95pgt-t
Hard-core CEG'er
harry,i've run a 65mm tb on a few diff. occasions for a good amount of time...ear dyno says it sounds louder,which tells the butt dyno "we've got gains here!!" lol. seriously,the car felt like it pulled slightly better:shrug:Did you test only up to 6200
I see better tq numbers up top but it seems it doesn't do too much more than a stock 3l tb.
Let me ask you, how much of a difference does having the 65mmtb feel on the car. Butt dyno wise.
jaged
Veteran CEG'er
only pulled to 6200 cause the car was screaming, and i dont get much higher than that autoxing so we didnt see the need to go higher
the intake from filter to 3L uim is all 3" and i could tell the difference. it does pull a lot more, and it whistles all the time, sounds like a SC
the intake from filter to 3L uim is all 3" and i could tell the difference. it does pull a lot more, and it whistles all the time, sounds like a SC
See its funny that everyone correlates sound with power. I think more
sound = less power in many situations:shrug: .
Educated people sometimes can differentiate between real gains and i think i feel something.See i like specifics, what rpms does it feel best, what rpms did it feel worse etc.
I hope joey tries the 65mm when he does his dyno testing.
Was it really 61 degrees when you did your first pull at 5641 rpms the numbers were at its peak. AFR 12.633
At 71 degrees during your second pull you got better numbers earlier in the rpms at 5400 rpms. AFR 13.688
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Barge
Hard-core CEG'er
If you wanna do the test yourself just grab a simple datalogger and log MAF voltage. More voltage = more air = more power
If it's making much of a difference you'd be able to see it.
If it's making much of a difference you'd be able to see it.
I agree that more sound doesn't always equal more power, absolutely. Folks, often kids always assume they're much faster with that fart can and loud open element filter, but when is more quiet, faster? Generally things are engineered to be quiet at the expense of optimum HP for the everyday average car driver, not the gear head.
95pgt-t
Hard-core CEG'er
perhaps sarcasam doesnt translate well through the intraw3b. but my comment on more sound = more power was meant to be sarcastic
BurritaSVT
Veteran CEG'er
I want to take the motor down I am hoping I can get the motor up and running soon. I have four manifolds to test for the dyno and I am ready to see this car done but I am still looking for a motor for cheap because the customer did not pay for this at all and he not expecting a new motor either for free but a running one..............lol Joey
TourDeForce
Hard-core CEG'er
Interesting exercise for intakes, but I suspect it will show us little. My money is on the Mazda UIM simply because the SVT intake setup is designed for secondaries - which should put more power under the curve overall. In an open flow scenario like this, it may offer more available volume up top for those pushing the redline to 7k & beyond, but power will suffer under 4k.
If it were possible to add to the list split port 3L heads and SVT UIM/LIM combo with secondaries, that would be the difinitive comparison with the above on the intake debate - whatever way it turns out.
xtascox
Hard-core CEG'er
From the sounds of it he's trying to do it without modifying the heads at all. So I doubt we will see the SVT UIM/LIM combo.
jaged
Veteran CEG'er
one that you might add, eventhough it might not fit under the hood is the escape uim. it has shorter runners than the old style tarus plastic uims but it it is taller
morbid
Hard-core CEG'er
Yeah... that would be good just to see the differences. Also, if someone has an ST220 UIM they can let Joey test with... THAT would be really cool to see the differences.
Only 2 or 3 people have them. I doubt they are willing to give it up.
But hey, you never know:shrug:
TourDeForce
Hard-core CEG'er
Agreed. Porting the heads is something most would rather avoid.
This could actually be quite telling for the LIM mod that has been developed. The larger volume of the SVT UIM with the tapered shape to the oval port should prove an interesting exercise.
I hope to see the results posted soon...
BurritaSVT
Veteran CEG'er
well the new motor for the car is being dropped off today from LKQ and I will be making a large spacer behind the TB for the SVT UIM to see if increasing the plenum size makes any difference on the power. Plus I will test the 65mm TB on the setup to see if any gains are there too. Right now we have four and possibly a ST220 manifold to test making it five different manifolds hitting the dyno. I will be hard to work this week putting this motor together along with another 3 liter turbo that is 60 % done now. Joey
xtascox
Hard-core CEG'er
I gotta give you credit for doing all this. I can't even find the time to do little maintenance things on my car.