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can I just put the 19lbs svt injectors in? will my comp controll that?
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96BlackSE
CEG'er
SVT injectors have different spay pattern not the best idea to use with the oval port heads
muntus
Veteran CEG'er
SVT injectors have different spay pattern not the best idea to use with the oval port heads
Do the 19lb injectors have a different spray pattern than the 17lb injectors?
96BlackSE
CEG'er
Do the 19lb injectors have a different spray pattern than the 17lb injectors?
Oval port injectors spray different then split ports!
muntus
Veteran CEG'er
Do the 19lb SVT injectors have a different spray pattern than the 17lb Contour injectors?
Fixed.
Just curious if this is the case.
morbid
Hard-core CEG'er
How hot do the heads get? JB weld quick can only handle up to 300F, where the normal JBWeld can handle 600F. The quick also has less tensile strength.JB Weld Quick
69Boss302
Has mile high skills
DemonSVT,
let me get this straight, the SVT PCM cannot properly control the 3.0 24# injectors without a tune?
Is that just from the taurus or from any 01+ 3.0?
let me get this straight, the SVT PCM cannot properly control the 3.0 24# injectors without a tune?
Is that just from the taurus or from any 01+ 3.0?
muntus
Veteran CEG'er
How hot do the heads get? JB weld quick can only handle up to 300F, where the normal JBWeld can handle 600F. The quick also has less tensile strength.
The incoming air cools things down. How much? Unsure.
I'm not sure if tensile strengths matters so much.
Blackcoog
Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT,
let me get this straight, the SVT PCM cannot properly control the 3.0 24# injectors without a tune?
Is that just from the taurus or from any 01+ 3.0?
It depends if you actually have 24lb injectors in your 3L. So far I've seen 2 different injector sizes (white and gray) in the newer Sable/Escape engines. I had them each flow tested and the white cream colored ones were flowing at about 17.5lbs and the gray injectors were flowing at about 21.4lbs. I thought the readings may have been off so I tested a set of orange 19lb SVT injectors and they came out exactly at 19lbs. I was expecting to see 19lb and 24lb injectors. I can get the injectors numbers off them if people don't want to trust the color.
The PCM can only adjust so much and I think it was determined that 24lb injectors were out of the range of adjustment so you would need a tune.
Chris
Bugzuki
Veteran CEG'er
The injector numbers would be cool. I have a set of orange SVT injectors and some grey 3L injectors out of a 2003 Sable.
warmonger
Hard-core CEG'er
The incoming air cools things down. How much? Unsure.
I'm not sure if tensile strengths matters so much.
How much? Enough. 300F is friggin hot and the intake tract never gets that hot.
There is nothing in any serious tension or compression where we are using this stuff.
i.e. JB qwik is just fine for this.
OB1
Hard-core CEG'er
It depends if you actually have 24lb injectors in your 3L. So far I've seen 2 different injector sizes (white and gray) in the newer Sable/Escape engines. I had them each flow tested and the white cream colored ones were flowing at about 17.5lbs and the gray injectors were flowing at about 21.4lbs. I thought the readings may have been off so I tested a set of orange 19lb SVT injectors and they came out exactly at 19lbs. I was expecting to see 19lb and 24lb injectors. I can get the injectors numbers off them if people don't want to trust the color.
The PCM can only adjust so much and I think it was determined that 24lb injectors were out of the range of adjustment so you would need a tune.
Chris
I don't know its been a while since I had some tour injectors out but my 3L ones look taller, they are grey also. I'm no where near this far but LMK which ones I should use? Tuning is probably going to be one of the 1st things I tackle afterwards so I'm more concerned w/ the SVT injectors ability to supply the engine!
warmonger
Hard-core CEG'er
Use the friggin 19# injectors from the SVT!!! Period!!
Later if you wish to boost the car you can use bigger, but 19's are enough for any 3.0L engine.
Later if you wish to boost the car you can use bigger, but 19's are enough for any 3.0L engine.
Blackcoog
Hard-core CEG'er
Injector numbers from my flow test:
Returnless 01+ Sable injectors:
Denso: YL8E-C7B (cream); flow tested at: 17.5lbs
Denso: 2F1E-A7A (gray); flow tested at: 21.4lbs
Return 98 SVT Contour injectors (control group):
Denso: F6VE-A5A (orange); flow tested at: 19lbs
Returnless 01+ Sable injectors:
Denso: YL8E-C7B (cream); flow tested at: 17.5lbs
Denso: 2F1E-A7A (gray); flow tested at: 21.4lbs
Return 98 SVT Contour injectors (control group):
Denso: F6VE-A5A (orange); flow tested at: 19lbs