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NPG Duratec 3.5L block for Contours, Cougars & Mystiques

I would use that 3.7L EVERYWHERE!! I would flaunt that motor like no other.
And with the 3.7 in the mustangs, when i had my svt dyno'd there was one there and with just a tune and he put 294 ish to the wheels.
 
:cool:Great Work Joey! Personally I would rather have an N/A motor especially since the car was designed to be N/A. It'll be so much easier to live with on a daily or weekend basis without the hassle of worrying about regulating the tuning for a turbo car. I see all the issues people like BAD SVT have with turbo'ing the cars. I think you guys are wisely making steps toward developing a seriously strong and underrated starting point; the Duratec engine.
 
Hmm...10G for a 3.7. Wonder how much would the cost to dropping in a Cyclone-based Duratec 3.7? :confused:
 
dairdevyld said:
:cool:Great Work Joey! Personally I would rather have an N/A motor especially since the car was designed to be N/A. It'll be so much easier to live with on a daily or weekend basis without the hassle of worrying about regulating the tuning for a turbo car. I see all the issues people like BAD SVT have with turbo'ing the cars. I think you guys are wisely making steps toward developing a seriously strong and underrated starting point; the Duratec engine.
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I see ur point. However, some serious tuning would still have to be done for these to function perfectly.
 
BAD SVT said:
I see ur point. However, some serious tuning would still have to be done for these to function perfectly.
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You're totally right (didn't mean to point you out btw :blackeye:) I just think it would be easier to deliver an engine rather than a turbo kit as a whole though. Joey can build the motor and tune the ECU with the complete engine for you and ship both to you as a full package, I mean I assume that's how it would work. Which would be a lot easier than you guys emailing tunes for a turbo motor back and forth. Any major internal issues with the engine can all be sorted out in-house, that way when it's delivered it's just a matter of dropping in the new engine, and swapping ECU's. Joey chime in if I'm wrong.
 
dairdevyld said:
You're totally right (didn't mean to point you out btw :blackeye:) I just think it would be easier to deliver an engine rather than a turbo kit as a whole though. Joey can build the motor and tune the ECU with the complete engine for you and ship both to you as a full package, I mean I assume that's how it would work. Which would be a lot easier than you guys emailing tunes for a turbo motor back and forth. Any major internal issues with the engine can all be sorted out in-house, that way when it's delivered it's just a matter of dropping in the new engine, and swapping ECU's. Joey chime in if I'm wrong.
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Each engine is going to have a different setup, cams, intakes, exhausts, injectors, etc that will vary each tune.

I do agree that the NA is going to be easier because you dont have to deal with the heat the turbo is making, the extra weight of the piping etc, its also forcing air into the engine rather than the engine pulling its own air. Not to mention all the other items you need for the turbo that can cause problems.
 
dairdevyld said:
You're totally right (didn't mean to point you out btw :blackeye:) I just think it would be easier to deliver an engine rather than a turbo kit as a whole though. Joey can build the motor and tune the ECU with the complete engine for you and ship both to you as a full package, I mean I assume that's how it would work. Which would be a lot easier than you guys emailing tunes for a turbo motor back and forth. Any major internal issues with the engine can all be sorted out in-house, that way when it's delivered it's just a matter of dropping in the new engine, and swapping ECU's. Joey chime in if I'm wrong.
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Oh its fine. I took no offense. Was only pointing out the obvious is all. I guess i can see how it'd be slightly easier. Not having to mess with the FI part of an engine since its all motor. The present pricing however is like WOAH tho...:shocked:
 
On a side note too, i really wished Joey focused on helping to design suspension parts that would help those with power put it to the ground efficiently. Quite a bit of us tour owners are running 3L engines. I bet he'd sell more of those parts on here instead of going bigger in the engine displacement department. Then again, i understand that he's got a larger customer base in the mazda 3 & 6 owners, & wants to capture that market.
 
Yeah I'd love to see them devote some time to suspension and putting that power to the ground, however I think that would be mostly for people that would want to drag race. I know traction is a concern but no FWD vehicle can really put down 300+ hp without some sort of wheelspin somewhere.
 
you can you just need more tire. i have very little spin off the line, and none at all on course
 
im talking high power FWD too. my SC3L cougar puts 300 to the wheels, and more if all goes well this winter
 
Wider tires will help, make them slicks and they help a lot! Remember quality of the tire is important as well. Also consider a S/C has smoother power band than a turbo, so the turbo is more likely to break the tires off when it hits full boost, when the S/C hits full boost at max rpm.
 
FastFord said:
Wider tires will help, make them slicks and they help a lot! Remember quality of the tire is important as well. Also consider a S/C has smoother power band than a turbo, so the turbo is more likely to break the tires off when it hits full boost, when the S/C hits full boost at max rpm.
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Very good point on the S/C & turbo. Didnt think of that. Unfortunately for us tour owners & many other low cost FWDs, the probability of breaking our axles or sumthn else shoots thru the roof:D
 
what fast ford made sence about the power band. but were talking about n/a here. thats another story
and also axles breaking is because of incorrect launching. first wheel spin, and then when the tires grip, the engine is still going at that speed, there for breaking axles.
 
NA power is similar to the S/C, smooth powerband.

If you have 300+ hp, your axles and everything else in between "should" be upgraded for that much power. I think no one has ever really done what it takes to get 300hp to the ground in these cars. Picture poles track car with 300whp, custom a-arms, traction bars, 3.5 fdr, DSS 600hp axles, and some 245 slicks on the front, itll hook pretty good I bet.
 
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