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LauraSVT

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Does anybody know what a pound of freon is going for these days? Last time I checked, the price had been artificially inflated to $60, but that was years ago. Perhaps someone has some on hand that they'd like to sell. Anyone?
 
not sure what its going for now, but good luck finding R-12 anywhere.
:)

when i was at the garage we were charging about $20/pound for R-132
 
R-12 definitely works better than R-132 but it is highly carcinogenic.
the funny part is, thats what they use in refrigerators...

but how often does a refrigerators system leak?
 
ElKy said:
but how often does a refrigerators system leak?
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probably often if your refrigerator 'system' is as old as his :laugh: :

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I've got some R-12 and it's not carcinogenic but it is supposedly bad for the ozone layer.
Shoot me a pm to disuss this further.
 
Redlineracer12 said:
And it doesn't work as good as R-12 from what I've been told ;)

Well if you're referring to just doing a retrofit thinger anyhow.
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You're right -- nothing's colder than R-12. Though R-134A is very good, the old freon would have you getting out of the car to warm up. :laugh:

Snipey said:
probably often if your refrigerator 'system' is as old as his :laugh: :

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Very funny. Just this morning on the way into work, the girl and I were stuck behind a 18-wheeler carrying a container from a dump. The smell was putrid. I had to bomb it down in third to shoot by him. This sparked a discussion on all the stuff you throw out in the normal course of daily living. The first thing I thought of was how the glass bottles that the milkman would deliver in the early 60s and prior were quite efficient. Mind you, this was before my time, but the idea of returning your empties to be cleaned and reused when the fresh milk got dropped off seems sensible in its simplicity. My girl pointed out that there would be no June Cleaver there to receive the milk nowadays, so it would sit on the stoop for hours until folks arrived home, having likely exceeded the limits of freshness.

This then spawned a discussion of iceboxes, when the ice man would come by, open a door in the back of the house that allowed access to the icebox, and fill it. I remarked that the guff you got as a kid for standing with the refrigerator door open would pale in comparison to the crap you'd catch with an actual icebox.

ctmystique said:
I've got some R-12 and it's not carcinogenic but it is supposedly bad for the ozone layer.
Shoot me a pm to disuss this further.
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TGO said:
i tihnk i have a few cans as well...have to check the basement.
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You guys get the friends of the EPA award. :laugh: Thank you for responding. I'll keep you posted. :cool: Some good news -- the compressor seems to have started playing back to form (as Lou Brown would say), and the car is blowing cold air. It's not icy, but it's most of the way there. I bet the system is not more than a pound down.
 
Tell your G/F that the milk was delivered in the wee hours of the AM so she could have fresh milk or cream ready for your morning coffee then just put it in the ice box before she starts the laundry and other daily chores.
 
ctmystique said:
Tell your G/F that the milk was delivered in the wee hours of the AM so she could have fresh milk or cream ready for your morning coffee then just put it in the ice box before she starts the laundry and other daily chores.
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See, what we needed here was someone old enough to remember. :laugh: Well done. Why didn't I think of that? :laugh:

Also, don't forget polishing pearls.

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Speaking of June. I had seen on a documentary somewhere that the reason she wore the pearls was to hide her deep hole in her neck where her clavicles meet.
 
R-12 works at a higher pressure than R132. Because of the higher pressure R-12 is more efficient at absorbing heat. R-12 destroys ozone, R-132 doesn't. Both are hazardous in that if they are let out in a room the danger is that they displace oxygen and although you don't notice if too much oxygen is pushed out of the room you can pass out and if its real bad you could suffocate.

Both work real well to put out fires but NEVER use them to do that. The reaction that takes place when the refrigerants are burned turns them into phosgene gas. A powerful nerve gas that is very deadly. It was used during World War One.

The do-it-yourself recharge cans for your a/c system have both the R-132 and the oil mixed together and sometimes with a seal conditioner to help stop small leaks. When your system does leak the coolant gets out but the oil stays behind and if you keep recharging with a do-it-yourself to keep the system working when it leaks eventually you'll run into a problem where there is too much oil in the system and not enough room for the amount of coolant needed and the a/c will work poorly even though the gauges say that the system is property charged.
 
Big Jim said:
What do you mean by R132? I'm sure you mean R134A, the refrigerant that replaced R12 for automotive use.
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I thought to myself, "'this doesn't seem right," as I typed R-132 but I did it anyways. I'm sorry if I confused anyone. Thanks for refreshing me.
 
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