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War and Prycon that was not ment as a personal attack towards either of you.

What I should have said is that it is hard to find a person that has mechanical ability and the book knowledge. I have met very few but they do exsist. :)

No pun guys.
 
giddyup306 said:
War and Prycon that was not ment as a personal attack towards either of you.

What I should have said is that it is hard to find a person that has mechanical ability and the book knowledge. I have met very few but they do exsist. :)

No pun guys.
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I've heard it before and it doesn't really bother me. I just thought it would be fun to screw with you. Besides, I'm not an automtive engineer but a materials science engineer.
 
giddyup306 said:
You'll be the first to know when I blow up my 3l. :p


Seriously these guys are book smart and field dumb (engineers).


But seriously thanks for the info (as to the dabate).

Mike
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This should have never been stated as an absolute, but sadly, it is sometimes true. It amazes me to see the wonderful designs that sometimes come from engineers that can't figure out how to tie their shoes.

I continue to feel that any engineering project should have design review by a balanced team for more full input, and validation should never be performed by the same engineer that performed the design.
 
Big Jim said:
This should have never been stated as an absolute, but sadly, it is sometimes true. It amazes me to see the wonderful designs that sometimes come from engineers that can't figure out how to tie their shoes.
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More times than not it is true. I don't know if you ever talked to a Driveability Engineer when you worked for Ford but honestly only about 1 out of 10 I talk to know what they are talking about. I've been told by more people that they are just failed techs. And I don't dout that for a second.
 
I'll still go with sometimes true. A lot of the engineers I've worked with really knew their stuff.

Since I was raised in a family of engineers (father, both brothers, two uncles, numerous couzins, etc, you might say I'm the black sheep of the family) I really can't go along with all of them or or even most of them or I would be making disparaging remarks about my parentage, and thus about myself.

A few of them though, I wonder just how they even find their way out of bed.
 
There is a big difference between just getting an engineering degree and using your engineering degree.
Most every engineering field has some sort of a designator to specify Professional Engineer, or PE. This just means you use your degree and are competent in your field...or that most of them are.

How many chumps graduate from college with various degrees but are still as absolutely worthless with a degree as they were before they went?

The degree is really a license to learn and although not 100%, it shows that if someone can succeed and get a degree then they probably have what it takes to learn and succeed at future jobs/tasks.

So in the end it still boils down to the quality of the person and the intellect/experience/training/personality/work ethic that they can bring to the table.
 
Very true. There are duds in every field, including (shudder the thought) medicine.

And there are people without degrees that are exceptionally smart and succeed without it.
 
Put me on the "I'll let you know when my tensioners fail" bandwagon. The length and throw of the tensioner piston is indentical. The only difference is the newer designed tensioner has about 5% less cross sectional area on the tip. This only means the old tensioners can not be used with the new guides but not the reverse.

I'm sure I give my tensioners more stress then about anyone else so if they fail prematurely I'll give everyone a real world time frame. 30k miles to date. "for reference"
 
DemonSVT said:
Put me on the "I'll let you know when my tensioners fail" bandwagon. The length and throw of the tensioner piston is identical. The only difference is the newer designed tensioner has about 5% less cross sectional area on the tip. This only means the old tensioners can not be used with the new guides but not the reverse.

I'm sure I give my tensioners more stress then about anyone else so if they fail prematurely I'll give everyone a real world time frame. 30k miles to date. "for reference"
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That's fine. I just want to counter that with the fact that the engines and their subsystems undergo testing meant to simulate in excess of 150k miles to prove long term durability. You are one data point (maybe there are a couple others). To go from a 50k mile durability to a 150+k mile durability requires much more attention to the little details. Many of which are not so obvious and are often times only determined through failure analysis. My point and intent is to recommend a proven system, not a mix match of parts. To me it is simple, you either use the parts from your existing 2.5L engine (likely 3/8" pitch chain drive) or use the parts from the donor 3.0L engine (likely 8mm pitch chain drive). Either is a known good as long as there is no obvious failure. Mixing and matching of parts has limited proven reliability.
 
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