MapOfTaziFoSho
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This is further proof that there is no necessity to use carfax at all. You just need to look for tell tale signs of an accident or new parts.
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Went to look at a replacement SVT.
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beyondloadedSE
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Hmmm...so he put custom valves in this thing? Unless hes referring to the stock 3.0L valves which im assuming came in 3.0L heads? Lets hope he didnt put 3.0L valves in 2.5L heads.
Im not sure if the shop owner is reading this, but its not a SHO motor. Yes, the 3.0L motor is out of a Taurus, but its not a SHO motor. It's just a straight up 3.0L duratec. The SHO motor is completely different to the Duratec. Yes, they may look similar with the tubular intake manifolds and the primary and secondary port heads, but they are completely different.
Btw, the SpellingNazi or whatever his name is would have a fit with that email. I've never seen so much poor spelling and punctuation.
And i still stand by my first statement about the car. Just looking at the engine bay and interior and how filthy it is, shows how the owner cared for that car, which in my opinion, isnt one I would want to own. For a mere 54K miles, the car looks abused.
Im not sure if the shop owner is reading this, but its not a SHO motor. Yes, the 3.0L motor is out of a Taurus, but its not a SHO motor. It's just a straight up 3.0L duratec. The SHO motor is completely different to the Duratec. Yes, they may look similar with the tubular intake manifolds and the primary and secondary port heads, but they are completely different.
Btw, the SpellingNazi or whatever his name is would have a fit with that email. I've never seen so much poor spelling and punctuation.
And i still stand by my first statement about the car. Just looking at the engine bay and interior and how filthy it is, shows how the owner cared for that car, which in my opinion, isnt one I would want to own. For a mere 54K miles, the car looks abused.
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shavedsvt
Veteran CEG'er
yes the car does look abused. i give you guys that. and im not sticking up for anyone one here but i went through the same stuff with my paint job. i was rushed it happens, the mirror was a casuality with the paint. its also quicker to replace than to repair body panels, especially if the owner wants it done fast. the exhaust always looks like that with that kit like everyone else says. the doors not fitting right. lets look at that really quick. yes its a shop that has had its share of being around, and yes the door should line up. but you always cant align everything perfectly. especially if you paint jambs. to do that all the doors need to come off. thats what i did and i have the same problem. the pass. rear door doesnt line up exactly perfect. its something that takes five minutes to fix but they just havent got to it. same with the trunk, if you worked in a body shop you would know that as it is the shops job to fix it, if the customer doesnt take it upon himself to tell the shop to adjust it they wont.the interior is just screwed. its ford not a replacement. ive seen many that look a little off, yes this is a bad variance, but it happens. also wow its a 3.0L plain and simple. who cares if the guy didnt know, hell most junk yards dont even know. i went to pick up my 3.0L for my car and the guy had a sohc cam in block waiting for me, i didnt know what it was out of but it was there, he said it was a 99 sable. people goof! quit playing this he said this and they said that. grow up! most of you are above the ages of 25 to well over 40. they did what they had to to please the little **** who ownes the car, if he wasnt happy then they wouldnt be paid. they rushed, they goofed, and the effort shows, but not the owners demands. yes its rough but dont bash it give him a hand trying to find a reasonable offer for the car, i say 3500 maybe 4000 considering it has the engine parts. cars arent always perfect, people mask a lot wrong with their cars. people paint a car and dont do certain jambs or engine bays for a reason..... duhhh i think the motor is the biggest problem, if the paint was done before the engine like mine was too, of course the engine bay wont be painted, you guys expect a perfect car, no car is perfect they all have problems. ok my rant is over sorry to offend anyone but this was a post that just annoyed me because i can relate to what happened with this car, like i explained but dont try to hide it, you should have gone in and talked to some one thats your fault, they forgot to mention it on the site, their fault..... your both at fault just get over it the cars not a complete wreck it just needs some TLC someone with a little painting backround and auto backround can have this car looking amazing within a few weeks. and not over 800 to 1000 dollars to fix the paint, a new headlight, the right overlays, and i think a 10mm socket to adjust the door and the trunk. everyone wants it done already but for that price its not bad to fix a few things come on guys you all know this is true. thats why i said 3500 to 4000.
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Pen_Two
Is not easliy amused.
The only reason I even made this post was because on the car ad, he listed it as "Excellent Condition." Someone who sees the ad online who isn't from this area would have purchased it, and had been very disappointed because they're now seeing all these flaws. That's why I didn't even bother to go in and speak with the shop owner, because on the phone and on the computer, the car was said to be in excellent condition. Honestly, it's very far from "excellent" and not worth the money regardless of modifications.
The whole point of the picture with the front bumper was because it seemed like it was held on with with about 2 bolts. It's also missing the supports inside the fender well.
The seller can try to defend the car as much as he wants, but I wouldn't waste my money on something he classified as "Excellent Condition."
Not to mention, there's paint build up around the tail lights as well.
Just out of curiosity, with those gauge cluster overlays...I doubt it was recalibrated to match the the new numbers.
As for giving him a fake call back number...
...I never gave him my email, and I know I gave him the correct number for my cell phone. I went down to look at it with every intent to buy. I was there to scope it out and try to get a bill of sale for the bank. You can even ask LUCA, I was very upset with it because I was anxious as all hell to see it and possibly purchase it.
The whole point of the picture with the front bumper was because it seemed like it was held on with with about 2 bolts. It's also missing the supports inside the fender well.
The seller can try to defend the car as much as he wants, but I wouldn't waste my money on something he classified as "Excellent Condition."
Not to mention, there's paint build up around the tail lights as well.
Just out of curiosity, with those gauge cluster overlays...I doubt it was recalibrated to match the the new numbers.
As for giving him a fake call back number...
...I never gave him my email, and I know I gave him the correct number for my cell phone. I went down to look at it with every intent to buy. I was there to scope it out and try to get a bill of sale for the bank. You can even ask LUCA, I was very upset with it because I was anxious as all hell to see it and possibly purchase it.
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JEDsContour
CEG'er
It's not that bad for $5,500
It's not that bad for $5,500
Vortech supercharged 3L? $5,500 seems fair if it runs well. Try to build one for that price (just try to find a good condition supercharger kit). The paint is rough, but might respond to wet sanding/buffing. Dirt cleans off, body panels can be aligned and tires are disposable items. Live with it and plan for the expense – especially to own and drive a supercharged SVT!
The fellow selling this has almost no writing skills and clearly does not know much about our cars – or about writing a good advertisement in general. In this case these shortcomings are going to cost him money.
Hell, he may be tired of this enough already to accept any reasonable cash offer.
The right guy could buy this car, drop $1,000 or so and a few days time into it, drive it for a year, and then sell it for a profit.
Interesting read. I'm going to put a 28K mile garage kept "excellent condition" tropic green 99 SVT up for sale soon. It'll be interesting to see what the nit-pickers make of that car!
It's not that bad for $5,500
Vortech supercharged 3L? $5,500 seems fair if it runs well. Try to build one for that price (just try to find a good condition supercharger kit). The paint is rough, but might respond to wet sanding/buffing. Dirt cleans off, body panels can be aligned and tires are disposable items. Live with it and plan for the expense – especially to own and drive a supercharged SVT!
The fellow selling this has almost no writing skills and clearly does not know much about our cars – or about writing a good advertisement in general. In this case these shortcomings are going to cost him money.
Hell, he may be tired of this enough already to accept any reasonable cash offer.
The right guy could buy this car, drop $1,000 or so and a few days time into it, drive it for a year, and then sell it for a profit.
Interesting read. I'm going to put a 28K mile garage kept "excellent condition" tropic green 99 SVT up for sale soon. It'll be interesting to see what the nit-pickers make of that car!
Pen_Two
Is not easliy amused.
It's the fact that the car wasn't in Excellent Condition like the ad states. If you were going to buy something for $5500 that looks good in pictures, and when you get it, it's covered in flaws...would you be happy? Highly doubtful.
JEDsContour
CEG'er
No kidding. Read the post. The guy wrote a crappy advertisement and it’s costing him. Had he accurately described the car it would probably be sold now.
Pen_Two
Is not easliy amused.
My bad, when you wrote, "I wonder what the nit-pickers will say" I thought you were making a sarcastic hit at me.
yamaha racer 686
Hard-core CEG'er
ok lets say im a kid and im all excited to get that car says its in a great condition and has all this stuff but when i go look it has the paint problem and things no quite right id back out right away 5500 might not be much to you but it is to the younger people on this site
and svt is a svt but when they get beat like that and changed alot from the original it really just kills it imo.
id be really disapointed just becuase it didnt say svt on the guage overlays
people do cars right and people do cars wrong and this is obviously done haphazardly
luca and pen two kno what they are talking about. lucas not a mediator for nothing
and svt is a svt but when they get beat like that and changed alot from the original it really just kills it imo.
id be really disapointed just becuase it didnt say svt on the guage overlays
people do cars right and people do cars wrong and this is obviously done haphazardly
luca and pen two kno what they are talking about. lucas not a mediator for nothing
JEDsContour
CEG'er
You should not buy this car.
This is an email sent to me by Dan, not the owner, but the shop owner where most of the work was done. He asked me to post this for him.
"Pen two" didnt have the balls to come into the shop the car was sitting next to for sale when he came to see it to ask about any of the concearns or discrepencies he saw in the authenticity of the add I posted to sell this car. If he did he wouldnt have had anything to bash it with.
LUCA: LMAO! Nothing you could/would have said would have changed our minds about the exterior of the car. You, my friend, need to go back and read what Pen_Two and I wrote.
Bashing?? We stated facts about what we saw in person. Even had we spoken with you our onion would have been the same. I don't recall bashing by either of us. Get over yourself.
He took pictures in the rain that doesnt show much, and no facts to talk bad about anything.
LUCA: We saw the car in person, we DO have facts. Oh, and I took the pictures. I made no comments about the pictures that I posted except to point out what the picture was of.
Yea just a little troll is right. The following will explain all the defects or lack there of with his claims and questions.
Firs of all I never posted that it was a perfect brand new off the lot show winner. But it is a damn nice car. Well worth the $5500 price tag. The vin If anybody wants to check it out is 1FAFP68G2XK179897 The floor mats stickers guage faces etc. All owners requests not what I suggested as a shop owner. Anything changed from factory because of choice and opinion not out to keep it all original.
LUCA: You posted that the car was in excellent condition! I don't think Glenn (Pen_Two) would have driven two hours to get to my house and then another hour+ to get to Landsdale to see a car he thought was a POS. It was listed as excellent, you listed it that way.
The VIN was run. I saw a discrepancy. There is 20 some thousand miles missing on the Carfax. Go back and you will see what I actually posted about missing mileage. Plus, CarFax shows no record of the car being inspected in 06, last inspection was in 05
The exhaust was bought and bolted on. Nothing else was done I agree bosal makes a poor fit however the pick ange shows and suggests worse that it really is.
LUCA: I didn't say anything about the exhaust. I know for a fact that some aftermarket exhausts don't fit perfectly.
The SHO 3.0 was bought used from a yard. I didnt look int it that far to check authenticity of the engine being sho except that that is what a reputable yard sold me and that is what I asked for. However the way we built it is now far better than any SHO engine that Ford ever put together. The heads have been ported with larger valves, intake and exhaust, cylinders honed with forged pistons and rods. I would be interested in the proof that these heads and block did not come from an sho. I shure looks the same as a few shos we had here for repairs in the past.
LUCA Again, this isn't something that I made mention of. I didn't see it, didn't pretend to see it and therefor didn't comment on the 3.0.
As far as what was invested, We charge by the hour and he had us do all the work, and paid for it all. we installed supercharger on the 2.5 and then he blew the 2.5 so then we got him the 3.0 had it built and installed that as well as all the other extras. the whole car was diassembled no masking to repaint it. The inperfection in the paint around the driver side mirror was from the 7 stage paint job; primer, sealer, base candy, flake, clear, wet sand, clear. The car was put back together too soon after paint and the fitment of the mirror dug into the paint before it cured all the way. anctious customer wants his car done!! Honestly that is the only imperfection in the paint.
LUCA Anxious customer or not, I wouldn't be proud to have my name on that paint job. You talk about us bashing you but you admit that this was a rush job and the car was put back together too soon. You said it yourself: "the fitment of the mirror dug into the paint before it cured all the way". WTH? See, we did speak the truth!
The car was black the engine bay wasnt painted. engine bay is still black.
LUCA: We knew that before we came to see the car. A non-issue for us as we knew why the engine bay was still original color.
The tires have 40 lbs in them. they should only have 30. they are actually overinflated.
LUCA: " Umm, OK. Didn't look that way to me, my husband or Glenn. If you say so."
The car did sit and has been sitting for a while hence the low miles. Tires do dry rot from sitting and not driving. Only the front are dry rotted and not ready to fall appart but do need to be replaced soon. The rears are fine.
LUCA: How can you buy a car with dry rotted tires? You have the car for sale but no one can drive it due to the tires, they are not safe. Another thing, the car is NOT inspected or registered so again, it legally can't be driven.
The door wasnt fully latched in his picture. That is why the uneven gap is seen in it.
LUCA: Yes, the door was latched. The only part of the door that stuck out was the top as shown in the picture.
The trunk probably could use a slight adjustment to get perfect but is not horrible and you really have to look to notice anything.
LUCA: I guess I just notice the little things. Honestly, it wasn't that bad.
The price on the windshield had not been updated.
Yes he is taking a huge loss but hobbies and toys are never a good investment.
LUCA: Couldn't agree with you more. We all know that we aren't getting our money back by modding our cars.
Dont know what the front pic shows other than the lower grill seems to need some clips along the bottom to hold it against the bumper. Have to check with ford on that.
LUCA: Not a good reprentation but the gap in the bumper. Of course you can't see that it was very loose in the picture.
Parking brake cables have been replaced and a rear caliper since he was here takin pics.
So I guess the cables is thew only thing it could be not calipers or anything like that huh?!?!?!
Alittle out of the blue but here goes have to get something off my chest.
You know if you dont have the money or am just not interestd just shut up. This is all just trash talk when you had the chance to make this right and confront the ad poster in person. I just dont get these people.
LUCA: LMAO! Glenn was VERY interested in buying the car until he saw it in person, I saw the look on his face and he was dissappointed. We aren't talking trash, we are speaking about what we SAW in person. I made no misreprentation about anything that I saw. I didn't say anything about the engine since it wasn't something I saw.
I think everyone on here knows that I am not a trash talker. I don't think I have ever once bashed someone or their car, it's just not me.
If you add the minor adjustments or repiars up you will still find it is well worth the $5500 price tag. The rear bumper is a ford bumper and you would think for $1100 or more you would get a piece that is made better. We got two and they both fit the same. I looked at other contours and they just were not designed well. The line from the 1/4 down to the bumper steps in. the bumper just seems a little to "in" Thats ford for you.
LUCA: So you replaced the rear bumper also?
You are correct, the rear bumpers don't fit well.
The interior was never changed! Not sure why ford made the dash off color.
LUCA: No one said it had been changed. Yes, the dash is a different color, that's the way it is supposed to be.
If the price is good just for the parts... Then come get it?!?
Nobody tuned the milage back nor replaced the guage cluster its just a bad indiglo overlay. The owner just wanted it, Im not going to refuse a job.
The owner isnt a car nut and he probably never conditioned the leather. But it doesnt mean its bad.
Nobody is fooling anybody that are guage faces how is putting on wrong guage faces fooling anybody? I dont get it. If anything i would be trying to show an SVT is an SE.
LUCA: The overlay, I don't understand why someone would want a V6 overlay when they have an SVT. :shrug: Whatever.
Yes, the leather was in bad shape, no denying that. Definetely not conditioned, IMO. Again, whatever.
Why is PENN TWO and LUCA breakin paint off other peoples car anyway and laughing about it?!?!? A little immature you better keep him away from your ride at the car shows!
LUCA: I didn't touch your car. Everyone that knows me on the CEG knows that I don't touch other people's cars and that I am always respectful of someone else's property.
The paint was not intentionally broken off, it came right off when touched. No one was sure if it was paint, bondo or whatever, plus it was raining and the car was wet, hard to tell. Personally, I had never seen a paint job that was so bad.I would expcet for $55,000 thousand in mods that it would have a great paint job. Just my opinion again.
I have the original invoices showing what was paid for itemized, but the dyno sheet is lost by the owner but the mods and potential speak for themselves.
Never in an accident that I know of or the owner knows of.
LUCA: Right, not that you know of. Again, CarFax is not always accurate when it comes to accidents.
We are a proffessional body shop here in business for 9.5 years and we couldnt see any signs of damage showing a comprimise in structural integrity.
We did replace a headlight and a fender, just beacause of dings and fading in the plastic not because of an accident.
LUCA: A professional body shop would not let that SVT represent their work, IMO. I don't own or work in that shop so who am I to say. Just my opinion. But if my car came out looking like that I would be p$ssed.
We didnt mask anything during the paint job all parts were disassembled for paint and put back together. The weatherstrip is all brand new. I did see on the passenger side the weather strip is designed to stick on with adhesive tape from the factory and a few inches along the top it is a little high by a millimeter or two when you are looking at it from the outside.
LUCA: Yep, I noticed that the weatherstripping was off. As you said, it was not by much.
The trunk could use a minor adjustment to get perfect but nothing noticable unless you are realy looking.
LUCA: I noticed it and I wasn't really looking. Maybe it's just me, but I tend to notice stuff like that.
The simple fact is this whole cart was apart for repainting no bumpers hood fenders or doors all painted off the car to avoid overspray, just like the factory does it.
Why is it so hard to believe that somebody has an svt contour and that they dumped an inheritanc into it in performance mods??
LUCA: Others have dropped loads of cash into their SVT's. I guess on this one I'm not seeing where $55,000 went. I didn't ask for reciepts and don't really care to see them. Again, my opinion is...Whatever. If the owner wants to drop that kind of coin into his car, so be it. Who am I to say what someone spends their money on. :shrug:
I personally think you guys are crazy for spending this much time and money on these cars anyway.
LUCA:
Isnt the nickname mercury mistake because of the oiling and electronic problems? The SVT doesnt seem to have all the same problems and I am imressed with what we were able to do with this particular car.
I personnally like the classic chevelles and the early 90 vws.
LUCA: I like the classic Chevelles also, as well as the early VW's.
Again never said it was an absolute show winner but well worth $5500 and performs great looks good and a damn nice fun car.
LUCA: You didn't say it was a show winner, but it was represented as being in excellent conditon.
I never said it didn't perform great. I didn't drive it, couldn't drive it.
Oh and thanks for the positive and compliments from BUDDY PALUMBO, GUITARMAN 19853, BREEZD, Y2KSVT, DAIRDEVYLD, ROVAR, SVTJON87, KREMITHEFROG
LUCA: Maybe you should go back and re-read what some of them said.
IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS WITH THIS PLEASE CALL ME AT 215 500 1680 ASK FOR DAN.
I recieved a mail about this car from somebody on www.cars.com (probably Pen Two) with a fake reply e-mail and phone number. That just shows me they were bashing and not interested in realy finding out about the car. Keep it to inquireys as to if you want to buy and not if you are jealous you cant afford and want to bash it. -Dan
LUCA: I highly doubt that Glenn would play head games with you and give you a fake number. He was looking forward to seeing this car and once he did, was disappointed. Please don't accuse him if you have no proof.
Jealous?? LMFAO!! I don't think so.
Again, I was not bashing you, re-read what I wrote. I spoke of what I saw and only what I saw. There was no bashing by me or Pen_Two so get over it. The only thing that Glenn and I wrote about were pure, plain and simple facts about what we saw in person.
I agree with you Pete.
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LUCA: " If someone really wanted the car then they could have negotiated the price to what you suggested. The issue and the main reason for the original post was that the car was NOT represented correctly, that's all. That's what the original post was about, Glenn was trying to let others know what we saw. We stated no facts about the engine because we didn't ask to see it, didn't need to/not interested in seeing it after we saw the body. "
The price negotiation would be between you and the person selling but I would have driven the two hours + again to see the engine, get pictures and listened to it run for you.
LUCA: "I posted this to you in response to the above post:
LUCA: " Exactly what Glenn stated, the reason we went to see the car was for him to check it out, and get a bill of sale for his bank if he liked it. The look on his face when he saw the car was one of disappointment. He was really interested in this SVT until he saw it."
Again, the point of the original post was to state what we saw. Neither of us made any comments on the 3.0 at all!
Jared, if you are still interested, by all means make an offer and go for it if that's what you want.
We only stated what we saw, there was no "bashing" by either of us at all, go back and read what we wrote.
EDUT: Sorry for the shoddy quote job. I was a bit ticked since I was accused of something I had no part in. I stated only facts that I knew were truthful about that car!
LUCA: " If someone really wanted the car then they could have negotiated the price to what you suggested. The issue and the main reason for the original post was that the car was NOT represented correctly, that's all. That's what the original post was about, Glenn was trying to let others know what we saw. We stated no facts about the engine because we didn't ask to see it, didn't need to/not interested in seeing it after we saw the body. "
The price negotiation would be between you and the person selling but I would have driven the two hours + again to see the engine, get pictures and listened to it run for you.
just found this thread...I had been looking at the car pretty serious until I read and looked at these pics...I remember he posted this car for something like $14000 at one point, and then emailed me like it was a big deal when he lowered the price to $9999...put him off a while longer, and then the price was $6500, and now I find it on cars.com today for $5500...the guy that I have been communicating with said that he was representing the shop where ALL the work except the machining and paint had been done...I was talking to the wife about sending him a deposit until I get my Mustang sold...NEVERMIND!!!
I am happy you guys are looking out for us newbies to the CSVT scene, I would have been one step beyond pi$$ed had the delivery truck pulled up to the house with that thing on it. Kind of sad it turned out this way though, which this would have been legit. There seem to be 5 Vortech kits in the world...would have been nice to have one of them...oh well.
Thanks again guys!!!
LUCA: "I posted this to you in response to the above post:
The only reason I even made this post was because on the car ad, he listed it as "Excellent Condition." Someone who sees the ad online who isn't from this area would have purchased it, and had been very disappointed because they're now seeing all these flaws. That's why I didn't even bother to go in and speak with the shop owner, because on the phone and on the computer, the car was said to be in excellent condition. Honestly, it's very far from "excellent" and not worth the money regardless of modifications.
LUCA: " BINGO! Ding, ding ding!! He was trying to prevent someone else from the disappointment of buying the car sight unseen (in person). Obviously, the point of this post took a turn in the wrong direction.
The whole point of the picture with the front bumper was because it seemed like it was held on with with about 2 bolts. It's also missing the supports inside the fender well.
The seller can try to defend the car as much as he wants, but I wouldn't waste my money on something he classified as "Excellent Condition."
Not to mention, there's paint build up around the tail lights as well.
Just out of curiosity, with those gauge cluster overlays...I doubt it was recalibrated to match the the new numbers.
As for giving him a fake call back number...
LUCA: " Exactly what Glenn stated, the reason we went to see the car was for him to check it out, and get a bill of sale for his bank if he liked it. The look on his face when he saw the car was one of disappointment. He was really interested in this SVT until he saw it."
Again, the point of the original post was to state what we saw. Neither of us made any comments on the 3.0 at all!
Jared, if you are still interested, by all means make an offer and go for it if that's what you want.
We only stated what we saw, there was no "bashing" by either of us at all, go back and read what we wrote.
EDUT: Sorry for the shoddy quote job. I was a bit ticked since I was accused of something I had no part in. I stated only facts that I knew were truthful about that car!
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TGO
King of the OFT
i like how he's still arguing that the heads are from a SHO. lol.
but seriously, just let the thread die already.
but seriously, just let the thread die already.
I guess posting what he emailed me might have been wrong on my part as it acted as a catalyst for more debate, maybe I should have just let this die, but I thought you guys would be interested in seeing what the seller was telling me...
All I really want is a nice CSVT!!!
All I really want is a nice CSVT!!!
Pen_Two
Is not easliy amused.
No, I don't see anything wrong with you posting what he requested be posted.
jared6180 said:
Then in my honest opinion from seeing the car in person...this isn't the one for you. That's why I made this thread. To look out for anyone who was interested in that so-called "excellent condition" SVT. Sorry if this delays your hunt for one, but I think you'd regret buying it.
Any debate is over IMO. I said what I said because I meant it, it was the truth. Had you bought that car you would have been pretty steamed when that car rolled off the truck. I am glad that we saved you the aggravation.
Exactly what Glenn said.
I feel better now.
Grant, you will have a PM in a few minutes.
SVT SNOB
Hard-core CEG'er
WOW - this thread DID take a turn for the worst :shocked: !!
Knowing Christine (LUCA) personally , and knowing how "into" these cars (and others) she is , I fully trust her judgement when she voices her opinions on what she sees . If I had one person to look at an "excellent condition" car (or any condition car , really) for me , it would be her . I also know that Glen (Pen_Two) was pretty psyched about the car till he saw it ... sheer disappointment was the word of the day from what I remember .
I am glad that the e-mail from the shop owner was posted , it gave him a chance to tell his side of the story . Maybe a note from the actual car owner will pop up next ??
I don't think there was any malicious intent from this post when it was started , just a heads-up on what was seen by fellow owners/enthusiasts . As usual , as always , it's a buyer beware world .
Knowing Christine (LUCA) personally , and knowing how "into" these cars (and others) she is , I fully trust her judgement when she voices her opinions on what she sees . If I had one person to look at an "excellent condition" car (or any condition car , really) for me , it would be her . I also know that Glen (Pen_Two) was pretty psyched about the car till he saw it ... sheer disappointment was the word of the day from what I remember .
I am glad that the e-mail from the shop owner was posted , it gave him a chance to tell his side of the story . Maybe a note from the actual car owner will pop up next ??
I don't think there was any malicious intent from this post when it was started , just a heads-up on what was seen by fellow owners/enthusiasts . As usual , as always , it's a buyer beware world .
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