LOL! You guys were all a little on the slow side at Gingerman.
I think Rog is getting a little too much crap for wanting to go here. For those that haven't been to TOTD, it's an awesome road, and I didn't even drive. I rode shotgun in my brand new 350Z. Who drove? The biggest dickbag (with OTHER peoples cars) of all, Todras.... with reckless f'ing abandon no less! But it was fun, and is a nice road regardless of speed. Many of the roads in the area, especially to the South, are just as twisty.
Maybe going there as a destination is kinda lame, but for a meet it would be a great place. If you haven't gone, at least make it a waypoint on your trip through. I'd say it's worth a few hour detour. That's what we did and it was worth it. Of course, don't let todd drive...