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Genesis Coupe. I <3 you

sigma said:
What is all that? A pound? Maybe. Seriously, half that stuff is basically software.
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I'm sure that's mostly a cost issue. The only one I have a gripe with is cruise control. With electronic throttle bodies, you're right, you only have to have a button and a few lines of code.

BT, trip computer, auto headlamps (my Taurus has them and I still turn the knob) are things I could easily do without it if saves 3,000 dollars.
 
shoteen95 said:
I'm sure that's mostly a cost issue. The only one I have a gripe with is cruise control. With electronic throttle bodies, you're right, you only have to have a button and a few lines of code.

BT, trip computer, auto headlamps (my Taurus has them and I still turn the knob) are things I could easily do without it if saves 3,000 dollars.
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But when you think of an "R" model, you expect there be a fairly drastic reduction in weight. The options they took out did very little for weight reduction.

Mark
 
Y2KSVT said:
But when you think of an "R" model, you expect there be a fairly drastic reduction in weight. The options they took out did very little for weight reduction.
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Americans dont take too kindly to drastic weight reduction. Even the infamous Integra TypeR was barely lighter than the standard car.

PurpleMystique said:
210hp in a ~3300lb car isn't that impressive. My 3.0 has a much better power-to-weight ratio, but I'm sure it will have a fairly strong aftermarket and most owners won't let that 210hp won't stay at 210 for long.
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The Tiburon (I know they arent calling this the next generation though) was always like that with their wimpy v6. But a lot of tuners already have the engine up in the 400hp range so it wont stay that low on some cars.
 
PurpleMystique said:
I wonder how much weight could be saved by losing the back seat, all sound deadening, power windows, A/C, etc.
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Quite a bit. The Neon based SRT4 lost some weight from minor things like that. Even a switch from power seats to manual seats saves some weight.
 
Output from the north/south-oriented engine will be significantly less-212 horses at 6000 rpm and 217 pound-feet of torque at 2500 rpm-to give buyers a reason to pick the V-6. Hyundai did engineer some headroom for the tuning and drifting set; the blown and intercooled I-4 features a low 9.3:1 compression and can take boost up to 29 psi. Like the V-6, Hyundai is certifying the engine to run on regular or premium unleaded. With the latter, horsepower jumps to 223.
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http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0805_2009_hyundai_genesis_coupe_first_look/index.html
 
Y2KSVT said:
But when you think of an "R" model, you expect there be a fairly drastic reduction in weight. The options they took out did very little for weight reduction.

Mark
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True, I guess they wanted to leave the joy of stripping out the car up to the consumer. :p

The weight reduction might be mumbo jumbo, but lets not forget the cost savings too.

PurpleMystique said:
210hp in a ~3300lb car isn't that impressive. My 3.0 has a much better power-to-weight ratio, but I'm sure it will have a fairly strong aftermarket and most owners won't let that 210hp won't stay at 210 for long.
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I think it will be fine for most people. A VW GTI weighs in at around 3100lbs or so and has 200hp, but is still considered to be one of the best small sporty cars out there.
 
shoteen95 said:
I think it will be fine for most people. A VW GTI weighs in at around 3100lbs or so and has 200hp, but is still considered to be one of the best small sporty cars out there.
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Very true. The GTI wins a lot of overall shootouts even again cars like the Caliber SRT4 and MazdaSpeed3 that have way more power. The GTI does everything well instead of doing a few things great and a few things just okay, kinda like the Tiburon always did. But Hyundai hit a home run (in the park maybe) with the Genesis so the Coupe should be solid and the tuners already seem to love it.
 
All I know is that I will be buying one of these long before I buy a new Mustang. When new car time rolls around in about 2 years I will be putting this up against a Z, but if the price stays this much better, even a Z will be a hard sell.
 
Pope said:
All I know is that I will be buying one of these long before I buy a new Mustang. When new car time rolls around in about 2 years I will be putting this up against a Z, but if the price stays this much better, even a Z will be a hard sell.
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Enthusiasts paying close to $40k for a "track" 370Z may be a harder sale with tuned Coupes rolling around you're right. Also the Camaro coming in under $25k (if they stick to that) with the slick 300hp v6 might take some sales too.
 
It is amazing to see Hyundai actually coming out with something that is worth the money. I need to do some research on the Genesis to see what all of the options are.
 
I really like the ad on their USA website.

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While they share a platform, the cars are just too different to make sharing a name sensible. If the coupe would have been a little more of a personal sport coupe like the Infiniti G and the sedan more of a sports sedan, it would have worked.

On the styling of the coupe, I hate it. It has dips and bulges in all the wrong places and nothing flows together into a cohesive whole.
 
Dyoel182 said:
Enthusiasts paying close to $40k for a "track" 370Z may be a harder sale with tuned Coupes rolling around you're right. Also the Camaro coming in under $25k (if they stick to that) with the slick 300hp v6 might take some sales too.
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The last I heard, pricing for the Camaro V6 was closer to $30k with the V8 nearing $35k at least.

I do like the looks of the Genesis Coupe.

Pretty impressive that the company that everyone crapped all over for years (myself included) is now winning everyone over in terms of fit/finish for price and reasonable reliability.
 
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