Taurus SHO Turbo Manifolds

[ScottyDsntKnow]

Sequentials I can see and I suppose with the emissions nazis and the MPG ratings being so important I guess every little bit helps? I dunno, with a well selected single turbo the motor will be well spooled by 2800rpm, don't really know why you'd need a twin setup ever unless it was for one of the things I mentioned before or you were doing a sequential like the Supras did.

 

[Harrry]

Sequentials I can see and I suppose with the emissions nazis and the MPG ratings being so important I guess every little bit helps? I dunno, with a well selected single turbo the motor will be well spooled by 2800rpm, don't really know why you'd need a twin setup ever unless it was for one of the things I mentioned before or you were doing a sequential like the Supras did.

Because bi-turbos can satisfy each area the other slacks in. Leaving the car needing less CI and thus increasing mpgs and power. It is on the expensive side! But if your goal needs to be met...then you will take all options..and in our case the Taurus. Ford took that option.

 

[mnewxcv]

Because bi-turbos can satisfy each area the other slacks in. Leaving the car needing less CI and thus increasing mpgs and power. It is on the expensive side! But if your goal needs to be met...then you will take all options..and in our case the Taurus. Ford took that option.

exactly

 

[greasemonkey1489]

Because bi-turbos can satisfy each area the other slacks in. Leaving the car needing less CI and thus increasing mpgs and power. It is on the expensive side! But if your goal needs to be met...then you will take all options..and in our case the Taurus. Ford took that option.

So, we are talking two different sized turbos? Or the same turbos with the wastegates/bypass operating separately to optimize throttle/turbo response

 

[mnewxcv]

So, we are talking two different sized turbos? Or the same turbos with the wastegates/bypass operating separately to optimize throttle/turbo response

usually a smaller turbo is used for the low end, and a larger one for the high end. Not sure how the SHO is though. Harrry will probably chime back.

 

[greasemonkey1489]

usually a smaller turbo is used for the low end, and a larger one for the high end. Not sure how the SHO is though. Harrry will probably chime back.

Yeah, but it looks like the SHO turbos are the same. Same goes for the Veyron's quad turbo

 

[ScottyDsntKnow]

Yeah that is why I'm not sure what the benefit is of using twins that are identical which is what I thought the SHO turbos were? Are they different? I know the advantage of the sequential turbos where smaller one takes up the slack down low and the bigger one up top.

 

[Harrry]

The 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6 also uses twin turbochargers, as opposed to a single unit. The reduced size of each turbocharger results in reduced internal inertia, allowing this advanced engine to avoid the "turbo lag" often prevalent in earlier-generation turbocharged applications. From the driver's seat, the rewarding result is linear power delivery across a broad torque band from 1,500 through 5,500 rpm. Peak torque building quickly off idle ensures responsive acceleration from a standing start.

Yea looking at the engine that def wouldn't clear the water pump :crazy:

So being that it is a twin turbo application.
This allows a turbo to be set at each bank...this helps them maximize their tuning for mpgs! No lag occurs..compared to a single larger turbo..( i don't mean huge turbo lag) because they are directly closer to the manifold for a quicker spool and having the smaller turbos makes the spool even quicker.

I think having two is over the top...but it covers all areas that ford was threatened by when comparing to other model sedans. They are trying to set the bar and i believe they didn't want to cut anything short.

 

[Dyoel182]

For a safe factory boost I can see why they went with 2 tiny turbos but for everyone else turbos are so nice these days that even big ones can be twin scroll with no noticeable lag. Its a wonderful time to be a tuner (unless you're in california).

 

[Harrry]

Agreed.^^ The great thing about these small twin turbos is the 295hp at 800 rpms..:crazy: And reaches 365hp at 1500 rpms.

Almost 300hp just by touching the gas, makes this an easy get around town vehicle .

 

[gmorrell]

Last time I drove a car that used sequential turbos well, it was a '93 RX-7, it was pretty damned effective at turning a relatively small (effective) displacement rotary engine into a decent producer of torque for a small, light car. The boost and turbo sequencing control systems on these cars were complex and prone to failure, TT RX-7's had miles of vacuum line under the hood connecting numerous solenoid valves, check valves, delay valves, sensors and actuators. Sort of a plumbing nightmare.

IIRC, the Toyota Supras used a sequential twin turbo setup, but most of the owners who tweaked them enough eventually converted them to a larger single turbo.

Twin turbos are so yesterday...

 

[Dyoel182]

Last time I drove a car that used sequential turbos well, it was a '93 RX-7, it was pretty damned effective at turning a relatively small (effective) displacement rotary engine into a decent producer of torque for a small, light car. The boost and turbo sequencing control systems on these cars were complex and prone to failure, TT RX-7's had miles of vacuum line under the hood connecting numerous solenoid valves, check valves, delay valves, sensors and actuators. Sort of a plumbing nightmare.

IIRC, the Toyota Supras used a sequential twin turbo setup, but most of the owners who tweaked them enough eventually converted them to a larger single turbo.

Rx7 owners usually convert to a single turbo as well. I remember the first time I saw a rotary engine out of the bay I asked what they were doing assuming it was a rebuild but they were simply checking all of the vacuum lines because there were probably 50 of them.

 

[beyondloadedSE]

I think somebody needs to start a thread titled "I think the Veyron manifolds fit a Contour" :laugh:

 

[FIND]

they were simply checking all of the vacuum lines because there were probably 50 of them.

on one side

I think somebody needs to start a thread titled "I think the Veyron manifolds fit a Contour" :laugh:

WIN

 

[Harrry]

I think somebody needs to start a thread titled "I think the Veyron manifolds fit a Contour" :laugh:

I would have said something sooner...but this kid already cried to me about me giving him a hard time, Just the other day for the first time :laugh:

 

[Harrry]

on one side

So i can only use 1 side..? Maybe if i got these sho turbos..they look small enough i can mount 1 on each side of the engine! That way i can have a quadruple turbo charged system

I bet then my 2.0L will beat your 1.9L!

 

[FIND]

So i can only use 1 side..? Maybe if i got these sho turbos..they look small enough i can mount 1 on each side of the engine! That way i can have a quadruple turbo charged system

pshhh noob.

You can attach the turbos directly to your exhaust ports. 6 turbos are obviously better than 4.

 

[Harrry]

pshhh noob.

You can attach the turbos directly to your exhaust ports. 6 turbos are obviously better than 4.

Wait wait wait...I'll just bolt on a 5.4L dohc head on my car and that will let me add 8 turbos total :crazy: We will see who is a noob then :laugh:

 

[FIND]

Wait wait wait...I'll just bolt on a 5.4L dohc head on my car and that will let me add 8 turbos total :crazy: We will see who is a noob then :laugh:

I was pwned

 

[greasemonkey1489]

I would have said something sooner...but this kid already cried to me about me giving him a hard time, Just the other day for the first time :laugh:

I don't need the criticism, check the first post. I was making an observation saying that the manifolds look like they have the same bolt pattern (minus 1 extra stud on the 3.5) as the contour headers. I didnt go telling anyone to pioneer an ecoboost duratec30 or anything..