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I am buying mirko splitter mold

agreed. Leave it as is.

A new mold is too much considering you won't sell enough to really make any kinda money. Much less pay them for their services.
 
you guys make excellent points and thats pretty much what i was thinking. it will increase the investment amount, the final cost AND the total time to get the splitters on peoples cars.

i just figured id run it by you guys since you'd be the ones buying them (and I as well of course). these arent exactly a money making gold mine here, just want to keep the splitters around, and improve on its durability.

i also received this email this morning





I spoke to our product development team and they see several issues with the Contour mold. Please relay this information to your customer.

Fitment: Our team believes the lip does not fit properly. As he discussed, it does not even wrap around the bumper. To make a lip wrap around the bumper a new mold must be produced. Also, judging by the lip on the bumper the rest of the lip does not fit well.

Mold: The mold is of low quality compared to the stuff we produce. Also, the mold of low quality is thin and we are not sure how many pieces we can produce before the mold either needs to be repaired or replaced. It can definitely run 30-40 no problem but i'm not sure how many afterwards.

In conclusion, our team recommends your customer leaves the oem bumper and fiberglass lip with us to build a new mold. We will not charge anything to prototype the lip to fit onto the bumper correctly. Total mold charge will be $800. His other option is to just produce out of the current mold. The quality of our product will be much better than his. However, we cannot guarantee fitment and longevity of the mold due to the issues discussed above. We can move foward either way. Let me know
 
It sucks because you are already $500 bucks in.... I mean truthfully, if we were able to get them in Carbon I would be willing to throw in a couple more dollars towards the new mold.

Again this would be something that a couple of the poeple who have interest in carbon would be willing to do. Along with whatever price they want for the splitter.

If we can get 30 or 40 out of the mold we have no great. How about when it needs repairing or replacement. Might as well just make the new mold now based on the old mold and make it better with the wrapping around and such.

- amyn
 
A batch of 30-40 would be perfect. I want one in Carbon Fiber but I think they will be $$$$$ unless I make it myself.

Duraflex would be the best bet.
That mold isn't the best you can get but it is a very good solid mold, I picked it up from Mirko, I know.

IF someone on here is real cool with some fella in San Diego named Poncho that does Carbon Fiber hoods and trunks for us. I bet you anything he'll make some using our mold after Steves connect makes some out of Duraflex first.

We should decide soon. I N E E D a splitter. But that $800 new mold is a good price but it is just not worth the investment to be honest. Unless a group buy is set up and people pay prior but who knows if that would work or not.

CAN'T WAIT! :shocked:
 
good news is we'd only need 15 pre-orders to get the ball rolling. but that's for a later discussion. right now, still focusing on the design.

and doc is correct. the mold seems very solid. im sure mirko made a few hundred using it and its still kicking. maybe theyre just used to beefier stuff
 
so any idea on a price per splitter for us? also, is there any reason you cant use the current mold for 30-40, and if it needs repairs or something, THEN get the new mold and pay $800 then? mirko splitter rev 2 sounds nice, but everyone seems to like the current gen. good luck
 
find out how much they want a piece for the 15 minimum order. . . then we'll see what happens amoung us all. :shrug:
 
if the splitter cost is going to be low enough, it would be nice to spread that 800 across the group buy. If you guys get 15, and they want 300 shipped, then that would only be ~350 once you include the cost of the new mold, which is less than they cost from mirko.

Plus the really nice thing here, is with duraflex splitters, a lot of the members who already have the plain FG splitters may be interested.

Good luck on that.
 
FIND said:
if the splitter cost is going to be low enough, it would be nice to spread that 800 across the group buy. If you guys get 15, and they want 300 shipped, then that would only be ~350 once you include the cost of the new mold, which is less than they cost from mirko.

Plus the really nice thing here, is with duraflex splitters, a lot of the members who already have the plain FG splitters may be interested.

Good luck on that.
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EXCELLENT idea! D*MN.

Steve! He has an excellent point. You gotta mention this as well.
You should just find out what they want per splitter. Negotiate if you can, wheel n deal you know. Then say hey so that means if we give you 50 more then you want at 15 people then you can just make us a new mold?

Something like that.

:laugh:
 
I say go with the new mold. Get a better product out now sooner rather than later. One of my personal pet peeves with the Mirko is the fitment and it not wrapping around the bumper, also the crappy fiberglass. Never liked the idea of drilling holes in my rare stock svt bumper for Zues fasteners. Your able to fix two things at once and get a great product. Get them while there interested now, before they realize Contour people won't cough up the money when the time comes and they wont want to work with us :blackeye::laugh:.

Of course final part price plays a role. Im highly interested!
 
FWIW, if they are doing a new mold for $800, with the changes, I would anticipate their price on those splitters will be substantially lower than mirko was charging. I would not be surprised if you guys are getting a per unit quote nearer to $200 for duraflex.
 
keep in mind the $500 for the mirko mold. plus, i promised a splitter to doc for passing on the info to me and for picking it up from mirko and delivering it to me. so that's closer to $1500 for the mold. unless someone were to buy the original mirko mold off me for $500 and they could make fiberglass splitters still. then that $500 could be applied toward the $800 new mold.
 
The way I look at it is you paid $500 for the rights to the Mirko splitter, than are paying $800 for the mold. Still $1300 for a Mold is real cheap. Keep the Mirko one around in case the company flakes on ya. Than you still have the original to keep and take else were. You can make an extra $800 back, your creative :laugh:. Not to mention if the potential new one is loads better you may get more people with the original buying the new one as well. Like mentioned above you may just find there pricing to be much better than Mirko, I always thought he over charged for it. But if its the same price for better quality, cant really complain.
 
Get a break down from the company on all options. Price per piece for using your mold, price per piece for using their mold (as they may charge less if we pay for them to make a mold). Mark up each price to make some money back for you, then let us know where we stand.

Just remember the CEG magic of "I want one" and then only 30% pay.

Your mold is bought and paid for, so if the finish of the splitters with this mold will be the same with their mold (ie, smoothness and uniformity of surface), then my vote is for your mold.

They are in business to make money, and if it were me, I would tout MY skills as better than others...
 
Please get a price on a CF splitter and a the prices on a duraflex. If They are molding them around the bumper I may just decide to get 1 of each. But I prefer the CF.

- amyn
 
qbcsvt said:
Please get a price on a CF splitter and a the prices on a duraflex. If They are molding them around the bumper I may just decide to get 1 of each. But I prefer the CF.

- amyn
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Seconded on the pricing quote. Anywhere between $200 and $300 shipped would be super. I'm conflicted between DF and CF as well, really. But I'm definitely buying one or the other.
 
Why doesn't someone who has a mirko, use it as a plug to make a mold from it? Is the mirko patented? If not then there is no reason to buy rights to copy it.

Can't even say it's out of respect, he's not losing anything anyway, the whole reason anyone wants the mold is because he don't want to make them any more. So just use an existing part for a plug. Nothing can happen from doing that, hell there is a million body kit manufacturers that copy other kits everyday.

That's why I don't get how the hell people are willing to send a ton of money to china so they can wait a year for a damn hood. It's retarded. Making a mold is extremely easy if you already have a plug. It's designing the original plug that is a .
 
yeah but could the original get ruined from making a mold of it? I doubt anyone would sign up for that if it was the case ...
 
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