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Maybe all is not lost. I realise it would better for Sho source to take an order for 10, but i'm sure if they made 2 or 3 of these and offered them for sale, slowly members would pick them up. ..G.
 
gorman said:
Maybe all is not lost. I realise it would better for Sho source to take an order for 10, but i'm sure if they made 2 or 3 of these and offered them for sale, slowly members would pick them up. ..G.
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I appreciate your effort and like I've said all along I want to buy one even though I don't plan on using it for a while.
Its hard for people to put up money for something that hasn't been done yet.
If Sho Source makes one and has pics up I have no doubt they will sell.
Between the Contour guys here and Cougar owners there will be enough people interested.
I'm still interested.
-J
 
I'd fund the $2000 if I had a guarantee that people would buy all of them, but that's not very encouraging so far.
 
I am also pretty surprized only one person has stepped forward. As requested, we will issue the refund since it does not look like this is moving forward.

I can also look into the option of a smaller run. I think we could do a smaller run of 5 for about $30 more each to cover the fixed costs (set up and tooling). If there is interest, let me know.

Mike
 
SHOpartsNW said:
I am also pretty surprized only one person has stepped forward. As requested, we will issue the refund since it does not look like this is moving forward.

I can also look into the option of a smaller run. I think we could do a smaller run of 5 for about $30 more each to cover the fixed costs (set up and tooling). If there is interest, let me know.

Mike
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Thanks for doing this guys. Hopefully CEG and NECO will get their acts together and get on board here.
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong here but if you feel there is a business opportunity in providing Contour/Cougar parts along with SHO stuff wouldn't you make one example for display/advertising purposes and expect to sell enough to cover R&D/tooling costs?
I think if you make the product sales will come, my 2 cents.
I would be a buyer and would be interested in future products as well.
-J
 
U+LIM for sale .... just thought id throw that out there... svt guys buy this bore it out, then sell ur svt IM for a good price.... come out with less into it...
 
SHOpartsNW said:
I am also pretty surprized only one person has stepped forward. As requested, we will issue the refund since it does not look like this is moving forward.

I can also look into the option of a smaller run. I think we could do a smaller run of 5 for about $30 more each to cover the fixed costs (set up and tooling). If there is interest, let me know.

Mike
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So am I correct in assuming (calculating) that individual custom runs would be around $350?
 
When you design for CNC production, the first LIM ends up costing closer to $500-600 because you have to pay for the custom tooling, programming, setup charges and machine time. At $500, you would be better off hand machining a single LIM to save money, but then it would not be a good representation of the production product.

Once you have the up front capital investment (tooling, program, setup costs), the cost to bore 10 or 100 at one sitting are actually quite similar other than the incremental parts and labor (butterfly plates, screws, disassembly/reassembly labor). The larger the run, the more cost effective the run. Even in the SHO world, we try to run our Big Bore Butterflies at least 12 sets at a time to keep the fixed costs low enough.

Sorry to digress into manufacturing 101, but it really is tough to capitalize the small run products like this LIM group buy and keep costs down. I don't have a copy of the guidelog, but what was SHOshop selling thier LIMs for back in the day?
 
peraonally i don't think you'd have issues selling these once they're made. for example on here svt uim go for around 150 dollars,on ebay they go for closer to 300,lim on here are around 50 dollars,i've seen them go for 125-150 on ebay. my point is people here are cheap and you shouldn't totally base your sale off of this website:shrug:
 
SHOpartsNW said:
When you design for CNC production, the first LIM ends up costing closer to $500-600 because you have to pay for the custom tooling, programming, setup charges and machine time. At $500, you would be better off hand machining a single LIM to save money, but then it would not be a good representation of the production product.

Once you have the up front capital investment (tooling, program, setup costs), the cost to bore 10 or 100 at one sitting are actually quite similar other than the incremental parts and labor (butterfly plates, screws, disassembly/reassembly labor). The larger the run, the more cost effective the run. Even in the SHO world, we try to run our Big Bore Butterflies at least 12 sets at a time to keep the fixed costs low enough.

Sorry to digress into manufacturing 101, but it really is tough to capitalize the small run products like this LIM group buy and keep costs down. I don't have a copy of the guidelog, but what was SHOshop selling thier LIMs for back in the day?
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They wanted 350 for it or thats what my receipt says.
 
SHOpartsNW said:
When you design for CNC production, the first LIM ends up costing closer to $500-600 because you have to pay for the custom tooling, programming, setup charges and machine time. At $500, you would be better off hand machining a single LIM to save money, but then it would not be a good representation of the production product.

Once you have the up front capital investment (tooling, program, setup costs), the cost to bore 10 or 100 at one sitting are actually quite similar other than the incremental parts and labor (butterfly plates, screws, disassembly/reassembly labor). The larger the run, the more cost effective the run. Even in the SHO world, we try to run our Big Bore Butterflies at least 12 sets at a time to keep the fixed costs low enough.

Sorry to digress into manufacturing 101, but it really is tough to capitalize the small run products like this LIM group buy and keep costs down. I don't have a copy of the guidelog, but what was SHOshop selling thier LIMs for back in the day?
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I understand what you're saying and the reason to do a run of 10 or more. My point was that it may be tough to pre-sell that many before you do it, before anyone can see a finished product. I think if you have even a few committed guys and do a run you won't have a problem selling the rest after other see it. But thats the business decision you have to make.
I hope you don't take this the wrong way as I appreciate your effort and like I said, I plan on buying one and hope to see other products for us like you offer for the SHO.
-J
 
Okay guys...from my observation from looking at a gasket my brother brought home from ford....compared to the felpro gasket i got from online.

They are identical. So either one will work with this application.
 
Didnt I say the gaskets are fine before two times? People need to believe me because I had the Sho-Shop one and had NO PROBLEMS!
 
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