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Yeah, if we could hear about options that would be great. Like how much the price would be reduced if we didn't get certain options. Like I won''t need my pipes coated since I can do that myself, and preferably, I'd like to supply my own BOV and I won't be needing to purchase a tune. So if you could just run through what it would cost not to get some things that would be awesome. But, awesome job, you're going to get my business!
 
Since the xcal / chip wont be included in the kit (from what I see). What do you suggest for tuning methods.

When will you start accepting deposits, and how much.
 
RawBurt said:
Since the xcal / chip wont be included in the kit (from what I see). What do you suggest for tuning methods.

When will you start accepting deposits, and how much.
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I think they still plan on recommending the xcal2.... but they will just send you the tune file? And you can get your own xcal2 or chip to load it on. That's what i understand from it anyhow.
 
The parts that are interchangable or upgradeable is the turbo,FMIC,BOV,and injectors. I am not charging for the coating on the pipes since the pipes need to be protected from moisture. I can leave them bare if you like but it won't cut the price any.

The tune file is free with the purchase of the kit it won't make the price cheaper because we already established the base tune.

The xcal 2 we are right now in process of being a dealer so prices won't be available yet but you can put our free base tune on anyones chip or xcal2

If you have injectors you can take off $100 off the price. If you want to take out the Dump valve subtract $75
These are the only two items I will subtract from the kit everything else goes with the kit.


Update is that the car running real strong on 7 psi and feels like it wants more boost.

So I went run the track tonite to see what I can get with street tires.

I ran a 14.2 et @ 100 mph with a 2.4 60'

I tore up a TC supercharged car with ton of stickers on it I love his expression.

The car drew alot of attention tonite people were all under my hood complimenting me on my setup. I have to say the real reason I do this is for hobby gratification not for the money. The kit really stands out with the FMIC and the pipes sticking up over the engine I will post some pics tomorrow of the car in the daylight.

I have a dyno maybe Sat. but I am going to start taking deposits tomorrow when I get the paypal business account setup. I am doing batches of five so if you want the first batch contact me PM. The first five deposit gets on the list in order and the mininum deposit is 1500.00.
 
would it be possible for those of us that do not have SVTs to get two springs, one for a lower psi to start with if we are not comfortable going to 7 psi off the bat or don't yet have the trans upgrades to handle that power?
 
BrApple said:
would it be possible for those of us that do not have SVTs to get two springs, one for a lower psi to start with if we are not comfortable going to 7 psi off the bat or don't yet have the trans upgrades to handle that power?
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This would not be a problem but new springs are a bit pricey. We'll check to see if we can get a deal on them but expect to pay $25 for a new one.

If you wish you can search the web for the other spring and order it once you have the kit or you can include it as an upgrade option. I recommend requesting the lowest spring you think you will use because you can add a boost controller to raise the boost later.
If you buy a kit with a low pressure spring and then later want to run a high pressure spring, you will run the risk of the wastegate opening under high exhaust pressure and delaying boost rise or not being able to exceed a certain level of boost without a fancy wastegate controller.
With that being said, the 4# spring will work with a controller up to boost levels of 8-9psi just fine. The 7# spring will work with boost levels up to around 15psi just fine.
 
RawBurt said:
Since the xcal / chip wont be included in the kit (from what I see). What do you suggest for tuning methods.

When will you start accepting deposits, and how much.
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We will provide a tailor-made tune for you car with the base fuel and timing settings that we have found work well.
Because we have a different processor code for different cars we have to make a different tune per se but they will all use similar values that will be set for safety and reliability in the tune.

This is what I meant that with further fine tuning you can probably make more power and still be safe especially if you have 93 octane fuel available.
If you want that kind of additional tuning then we will work with you later.

I recommend that all of you try out the base tune first and get your car up and running and check it out on a dyno first before going into further tuning.

As far as the tune, Joey is right. We are not making money off the base tune for kit. We will make money off of further fine tuning for your application. For the price how can anyone complain? They may get a near perfect tune on a great kit for under $3000! No kit on the market comes tuned for any where near that. All those $2500 kits out there are "tuner" kits where you get some parts and the rest is up to you.
This kit is lightyears ahead because we have it figured out for you and as long as you follow our recommendations on a properly running car you will have comparable performance.

Another thing: You can order this kit without injectors and use your stock 19# injectors if you have an SVT and you will be fine if you stay at around 4psi. If you plan on upgrading to bigger injectors than the kit offers soon after then you may want to do this.
 
so might it just be better to stick with the 7 psi spring and get a manual boost controller to turn it down? or is it better to get a lower spring then use a manual boost controller to turn the boost up?
 
Also cna you use this kit on the 3L yet or is this one just for hte 2.5. Mainly asking cause I know the 3L will def have a dif tune
 
BrApple said:
so might it just be better to stick with the 7 psi spring and get a manual boost controller to turn it down? or is it better to get a lower spring then use a manual boost controller to turn the boost up?
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Unless you have a nice electronic boost controller like an Apexi AVC-R you won't be able to lower the boost from what the wastegate is set at. You will go by the spring or higher.
 
BrApple said:
so might it just be better to stick with the 7 psi spring and get a manual boost controller to turn it down? or is it better to get a lower spring then use a manual boost controller to turn the boost up?
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99cougar said:
Unless you have a nice electronic boost controller like an Apexi AVC-R you won't be able to lower the boost from what the wastegate is set at. You will go by the spring or higher.
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thanks, I follow now
 
So im a little confused. the only thing were gonna need is an xcal/chip for you to flash, are you going to be able to sell us that with the kit as well, or are we gonna have to go else were for that? If so how much are those running these days. And being there are prob. gonna be quite a few people that dont already have one, maybe someone can start a group buy on that too.
 
well there seems to be at least a few good things to get outside of this kit

1. build trans with lsd
2. battery relocation kit (see steedas group buy)
3. xcal2 (check brenspeed on ebay, used and refurbshed ones for $245)
4. wide band O2 sensor (check bigballedox's group buy, closing soon, now can get guages also for a discount)
5. any other guages you want (sound like egt would be good, oil pressure and temp, etc)
 
Thanks Brapple you summed up alot at this point.

I would recommend the 3.8psi spring unless you are going with a nice electronic boost guage that can control what the wastegates see either direction. I am running with the 3.8psi spring now no issues whatsoever.

Don't sweat the xcal2 we are working on the dealer license now. If we can't get the tuner package we will contact another local delaer here who said we can buy in bulk from him. The price will be in the low 300.00 for the xcal2 and the chips we will quote later guessing half the price but would not recommend it since you wil have to pay someone to fine adjust the tune.

Shipping is not included i will use the best price smallest package available and the insured for the retail price.

Also I will be adding on the site I order five sets of headers from MSDS to coat them and cure them to sell on the site. If you want some to get some more power out of the kit mention it since it will not cost you in shipping. I am selling the headers for $250.00 coated.

Like Tom Said if you want to run stock injectors you can if you leave the 3.8 psi spring alone we already dynoed the car @ 5 psi 237whp 250wtq on stock injectors this will save you $100 on the kit and later on buy some 24# from us. We will give you a discounted price since you bought the kit from us just like the extra tuning if you ever need it too.

I already have five people in the first batch if they pay today once i get the paypal account open.

Now if you plan on paying I prefer only to use paypal since it protects both me and you against problems and keep good records too. So if you don't have an account there try to make it easier plus the they accept credit cards too.

Yes you can use this kit on the 3 liter the only issue I will see at this point is the intercooler I have now is optimum for the 2.5 you will need to buy the larger core for $100 extra and the injectors should go about 300-320whp so you should be ok with that but if you go past the 300whp change the MAF to a 80mm. The pipes are exactly the same and I would get the headers to flow the 3 liter too.




Thanks Joey
 
But wont the tune need to e dif for hte 3L and a dif spring for more psi? And also are you still painting the SVT on the front mopunt intervooler?>
 
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